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Post by Sir Black Fox on Mar 16, 2010 1:28:56 GMT -5
On Saturday, we're hoping to gather as many folks at the Chapel as we can for a toast to all of our friends, family, and others who are a part of making our country free enough that we can celebrate at faire.
This will happen at the Chapel of St. George, time to be decided later. Most likely after the 2pm hour due to scheduled weddings at the site.
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Post by Lady Maerwynn on Mar 16, 2010 9:19:05 GMT -5
Steve, what a wonderful idea. I will be there and Bruce also if he is not working out of town.
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Post by shakespearesskum on Mar 16, 2010 14:29:05 GMT -5
Hello Steve & all,
Earlier today I recieved an email from a patron who heard about your plans or 9/11 and was quite upset. I agree, and feel that if you want to commemorate 9/11 you certainly should do that at a time and location that is fitting. A 16th century entertainment event is not an appropriate location, I think.
The Chapel is part of the festival and an entertainment location, and it would certainly look like a sanctioned event to an outsider. I will not grant permission for your plans for the Chapel, and suggest that if people wish to spend that day in reflection, then perhaps they should do so prior to visiting the Festival.
Thank you. Carolyn Artistic Director Maryland Renaissance Festival
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Post by Sir Black Fox on Mar 16, 2010 14:38:46 GMT -5
Carolyn,
I completely understand your reasoning. I was in no way trying to usurp reign over the festival or give the appearance of a sanctioned event.
MDRF is the only place where a lot of us get to see each other, that's why I thought the chapel would be a good spot to give a toast to those who allow us to attend such a wonderful 16th century themed event by their sacrifice.
We shall find another way to honor them.
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Post by Sir Black Fox on Mar 16, 2010 14:48:44 GMT -5
Let's try to all meet up at some place local after the faire day is over to have our toast and relax after a day of . . uh. . . relaxation! Any ideas out there?
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Post by capthayes on Mar 17, 2010 10:07:28 GMT -5
I have to chime in here. As a paytron of the MDRF and a memeber of the military I am shocked at the tone of the e-mail from Carolyn.
Nearly every set that the Rougues play, they mention their respect for members of the military, what is wrong with us doing the same thing?
So the Chapel is out, how about we gather around the statue of the hart at the White Hart, or do it at the Wine Pavilion
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Post by willpaisley on Mar 17, 2010 11:19:05 GMT -5
I have to chime in here. As a paytron of the MDRF and a memeber of the military I am shocked at the tone of the e-mail from Carolyn. Nearly every set that the Rougues play, they mention their respect for members of the military, what is wrong with us doing the same thing? Here's the key: The Chapel is part of the festival and an entertainment location, and it would certainly look like a sanctioned event to an outsider. Whatever the Rogues do during their set is pretty much their own business. It is clear to all observers that whatever they promote is a Rogues thing, and any fundraisers or non-Faire-related activities they promote are all held offsite. If they tried to hold a mini-Deke Stock over by the chapel, they'd run into the same problem. Also, the Rogues are hired faire performers, and are as such "part" of faire, after a fashion. They're well versed in how to represent themselves and what not to do at faire. No matter how well we know the cast, performers and management, we are still patrons. All faires have a valid concern with patrons performing actions that cause them to be seen as cast or official members of faire. This is why patrons get in trouble for bringing musical instruments and performing on the lanes. If you're not on cast or hired as a performer, faire has no control over you. All it takes is for one patron to act like a jackass to flood Carolyn with letters about her "rude performers". We're actually quite lucky to be as included as we are at faire, dressing up like the performers and interacting with them as we do. Disneyworld would never allow patrons to walk in the front gate dressed as cartoon characters and interact with the public. My wife and I found out early on that anything a patron does that looks like "part of the show" at MDRF requires explicit permission from the Entertainment Director, even if it's a bit with a performer and you already have permission from the act. Hell, in one instance, the London Broil *requested* that the wenches get involved at their last show, and it had to be run by Carolyn. This is pretty standard procedure at all faires. At VARF, wenches aren't yet permitted to do wenchings with lipstick because a wenching looks too much like part of the show, and a historical "edutainment" faire such as VARF doesn't want patrons to get the impression that 16th century English peasant women all ran around wearing day-glo red lipstick. The director always gives the final answer, and sometimes that answer is "no".
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Post by Sir Black Fox on Mar 17, 2010 15:09:11 GMT -5
KUDOS to Will . . . that's exactly what I was getting at. We all have to remember that this is not OUR faire. . .we're guests like any other paying customer. We're not part of the show and the owners are nice enough to let us dress like characters.
Try dressing as a Disney character and try to get into Disneyworld!
I respect Carolyn and the incredible job she does, not just hiring the best of entertainment, but putting up with so many other challenges (like us) in trying to maintain the atmosphere of 16th century Tudor England.
Unlike us, who go there to play, the faire is Carolyn's job and how it's reflected to the paying customer is how her performance is judged.
As the single person whose job it is to keep Revel Grove's atmosphere believable, I salute HER. I was way off base to think we could put together such an event, when it's not my place to do so, regardless of the spirit of the event. As she said, there are more appropriate ways to salute our military than at a RenFaire.
Our group is all about the FUN and adventure of MDRF and how we can enjoy it all to the max.
Let's celebrate the fact that it exists for all of us to enjoy and leave it at that.
Huzzzzahhh!
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Post by Amras on Mar 19, 2010 17:38:45 GMT -5
I will have the Squirrelwagon in the parking lot early, as usual, on that day, and will be sharing meditations, prayers, smiles, tears, hopes, laughter and plenty of other sentiments to the memory of patriots of every ilk with anyone else who cares to...you are welcome to join me in my foxhole, anytime...once more into the breach, squirrel warriors, once more...huzzah!!
Amras Elfwine U.S. Army, Retired 18th Airborne Corp, U.S. Field Station Berlin, 5th Infantry Division, 1st Armored Division, National Security Agency
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Post by ellejones on Apr 7, 2010 20:15:14 GMT -5
Jeff and I will also be there that day. We always have a table at the back of the White Hart, and can get together that day with everyone there.
Elle "The Welsh Tart" Jones U.S. Army, Disabled Veteran 741st Military Intelligence Battalion, Ft. Meade, MD
Jeff "Frozen" Weatherford U.S. Air Force
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Post by Amras on Sept 7, 2010 10:06:59 GMT -5
A gentle bump of thread for this improtant day.
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Post by Sir Black Fox on Sept 8, 2010 17:29:26 GMT -5
I'll be in my US Navy Kilt (that is mostly blue), white socks, bright red shirt
JO2 Steve Kimball, United States Navy, (1980 - 1990) DINFOS - Student USS NIMITZ (CVN 68) - Broadcaster, PAO LPO, Print Journalist United States Naval Academy - Deputy Dir. for Media Relations, Photo Journalist Medically Retired/Disabled Veteran VFW Lifetime Member
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Post by Lady De Vernay ( Lady V ) on Sept 9, 2010 8:56:09 GMT -5
Where is everyone meeting up ? Our son is in Fort Hood now , he will be deployed to Iraq in April.
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